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    Sago citations

    Due to the amount of requests, MSHA has put the "
    Unwarrantable Failures " citations from the Sago mine in a foia page. Sago foia

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    Re: Sago citations

    So what happens if none of the citations were the result of this mine explosion? Everyone points out about the citations that were given to the mines prior to this terrible accident, but really none of the citations caused this explosion. Who will take blame for the "old works" if it comes out that this is what caused the explosion. The foreman or owner of the mines?

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    Re: Sago citations

    Probably the prior ownership of the mines before ICG bought the mine from them, unless this came along with a group acquisition agreement where they bought that company out. Every company that owns a mine has to pay reclamation & safety premiums on surface & deep mines. Any cost should be covered by the insurance policy as long as the premiums are paid up. It really depends on if ICG bought up that mine plus all responsibilities attached or left the responsibilities with the prior ownership as to who gets the blame for it.
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    Re: Sago citations

    Haha, that is the reason that we are waiting for the investigation. If the explosion came from properly sealed old workings, then it will be hard to say who is responsible- from my standpoint anyway. No matter who is slapped with the final blame, 13 people are still gone. I thought some might want to read the citations, as they will be part of the investigation.

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    Re: Sago citations

    Even if the old works is to blame, isn't it still supposed to be checked every time the fire boss goes into the mines before the workers enter? My thought was maybe the fire boss didn't check around this area. Or maybe he did and at the time all levels of gas was not showing and the men entered and once inside the mines then there was some kind of break into the old works and therefore the explosion took place. I don't know but I wonder if the truth will even come out.

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    Mmmmm, there are lots of things that could have happened. Some of the citations are for things that are hard to overlook, and really if you have been cited for them before. Pre-shifts, in my opinion are kinda like a sticker on your car. Nobody wants a "rejected" but then again, I don't want to meet someone that can't steer their car , head-on. When you seal an area, it is blocked off, somewhere in time, it goes thru a range of methane, if the mine liberates much, and the oxyen content drops. The area in question , hadn't been sealed long, so it is hard to say where it might have been o2 and methane wise. Till it all comes out, I would just read and try to not let it happen again, learn from what has happened, I guess.

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